Interview with Oscar-Winning SFX Supervisor Chris Corbould
We were afforded a chance to sit down with Chris Corbould, an Oscar-winning special effects supervisor on dozens of blockbuster Hollywood projects (with an Order of the British Empire to cap it off). Corbould also has happened to be a part of the Bond movie franchise behind the scenes in some capacity for 15 movies, starting with 1977'sThe Spy Who Loved Me. He began work as the lead SFX supervisor on Bond movies starting with 1995'sGoldenEye, in which he came up with and masterminded the now-iconic tank chase through the streets of St. Petersburg, Russia right after the collapse of the Soviet Union. If you remember the gadgets on Bond's BMWs, the Guinness record-setting Aston Martin DBS flip inCasino Royale, or the DB5 machine guns shredding chasing Alfas on the streets of Matera, Italy, it was under the guiding eye of this genius. While Corbould was not directly involved in the new Amazon show, it is inspired by his work on the big screen. We had a few minutes to chat with him about various Bond and filmmaking topics.
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MT: Where do you go for inspiration on new action sequences? Stuff you seen on social media these days?
CC: "I try not to be swayed by anything I've seen anywhere else. When I started on the Batman franchise with Christopher Nolan, I'd never watched a Batman movie before, so I deliberately didn't do it because I think subconsciously you get swayed by what you've seen before. When we didGoldenEye,I got called into the office to make a motorbike chase better. I'll tell you how to make it better: there's been 10 motorbike chases in the last few years—get rid of it. It starts in a military park, why doesn't Bond steal a tank? And the whole sequence came out of that conversation. That was a prime example: a car can easily outrun a tank, but a tank can go through things like buildings. The car goes around but the tank plows through. We had a lot of fun with it." (For the record, production rebuilt entire blocks of the city on a backlot in England for most of the actual damage to occur.)
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CC: "I'd like to see vehicles in a car chase that are not where you'd expect to see them. It can be a Formula 1 car going through the streets of London, that's where you get the originality from. Just seeing another car chase doesn't do it for me. The [No Time To Die] chase in Matera, I was thrilled when they said [the DB5] was going to be in full combat mode. We did a little bit of gun firing inSkyfall, and then it goes right back toThunderballfor it to do anything exciting. We had so many gadgets being dreamt up. We decided to deliberately reign it back a bit to better fulfill the emotion of the moment between Bond and Madeleine in the car."
Corbould mentioned in a previous roundtable that the original Matera chase involved the almost comically indestructible DB5 crashing through multiple restaurants, living rooms, and structures, but eventually Aston and the budget cut things back, to his slight disappointment.
MT: How do you nurture a good story but also ensure you're getting those big "trailer moments" when developing action scenes for a Bond movie?
CC: "For me personally, the storyline and the characters are the most important thing. I know we do wild and wonderful things, but it still has to keep the storyline and characters. The location will also dictate the action scene once you show up. Matera lended itself with narrow streets, the ravine at the bottom, it jumped out. I went out there 17 or 18 times scouting—this could happen here, this could happen there—and we settle on the final scene."
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MT: What's it like, in a leadership role, making sure everyone is safe around your potentially dangerous work?
CC: "It's all down to extensive testing of everything that goes on set. The big explosion that we did out in Morocco [for 2015'sSpectre], we did individual tests for three months, finding out how far the heat will come out, the spread, and not just for explosions but for everything. If there's a gadget, or a sinking house (likeCasino Royale's explosive finale), we were rehearsing for four weeks before we let anyone on set, almost trying to break it. For vehicles, we hand it over to stunts and they literally try to break it. They need to feel confident that this vehicle in this setup will do anything they want it to do. Sometimes they break it and we learn from it. It's a collaboration, they're driving something we've modified."
CC: "The classic one was the battle on the ice lake in 2002'sDie Another Day[between Bond's Aston Martin "Vanish" Vanquish and henchman Zao's Jaguar XKR]. First of all, when we found out it was on an ice lake, I immediately said we need four-wheel drive. I went to Aston Martin and Jaguar, and both said, 'Well, we haven't got four-wheel drive.' My SFX workshop modified four of each car with a transfer box. So we made the only four-wheel drive versions of those cars at the time, the first stage of safety for the drivers. Second stage, after having done 1987'sThe Living Daylightson a frozen lake previously, I always felt nervous that if the car went through the ice, there was nothing stopping it. So onDie Another Day, on all the cars that went out on the ice, we had automatic inflation bags equipped, so if it did come into contact with water, it would automatically come to the surface. We were drifting, driving fast, doing explosions."
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MT: For someone in your filmmaking position, does modern electric vehicle technology afford any new opportunities?
CC: "I don't think the whole 'electric car chase' concept has been really explored on screen. It will happen, but unfortunately, the sound of an EV is not as an exciting as a V-8. For stunts, I don't know what advantage an EV would give us. The first thing we do with new cars is turn off most of the safety features for stunts; you don't want ABS, we put in a manual handbrake, especially for [No Time To Diestunt driver] Mark Higgins. The handbrake on a modern car just doesn't work for it."
MT: So we might see the opposite? A gas, manual, analog stunt car emulating an EV on screen to get the driving dynamics the stunt team wants?
CC: "Yeah. It will come relatively shortly where we'll have a big EV car chase. But I don't know. I can't get into Formula E. It's ... weird."
In the earlier roundtable interview, Corbould had offered that he didn't have a clear vision for the future of the car chase on screen, as it feels played out. He questioned how to find a new approach to some skids around a corner, the point where cars make contact, you can only do so much, and he finds that car chases usually stretch on too long. But he also seems confident that it can and will be done, as franchises like Bond always find new ways to top themselves.
MT: Is there potential for motorsport in a Bond movie?
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CC: "Yeah, I think so. Certainly. It's a very exciting venue to have a chase. Is Bond in one of the cars, the baddie in a car, and it all kicks off amongst the race, they're having this battle? Could be fun."
MT: You usually design a car to fit a scene's needs. Could you design a scene around an existing car's capabilities?
CC: "In an early script, in the Danny Boyle days [ofNo Time To Diepre-production], there was a very high speed chase using the Aston Martin Valhalla. It would go into a tunnel, right way around [upside down and back], and I got into long conversations with [Aston designer Marek Reichman] over whether this is possible. Technically it would be possible, the way the car is being sucked to the ground by aerodynamics. But how we would have shot it, I have no idea, because you'd need a camera car going just as fast to capture it. We explored it, but it never really got traction."
MT: What's next for you?
CC: "I've put the special effects on hold for awhile now. I bought the rights to a book, I've just finished the script. It's based on the true life book of two guys that get kidnapped in Colombia. Next year I should be getting back to direct that myself. That's my plan at the moment."
MT: You've already done second unit work directing parts of Bond movies, right?
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CC: "Well I actually shot the whole ending of 2012'sSkyfall, the helicopter attack on [Bond's] house. I was called in to see [director] Sam Mendes and Barbara and Michael and they said, 'well, we've got this naff ending,' and I came up with the ending of the helicopter attacking the house. Sam had me go and pre-visualize it, and then he asked me to shoot it. He gave me free reign with blowing the DB5 and the house up, and that was fun."